Islam and the U.S.

Yahoo news posted this as one of their “Pictures of the Day” on their Facebook feed:

Not in My Name

It is part of the Not in My Name viral movement of Muslims protesting the acts, and existence, of ISIL/ISIS.

(Not quite as fun as the Burning the ISIS Flag movement, but same worthy goal.)

Anyway, the responses of Yahoo News readers was simply appalling:

“For the better part of two decades, Americans have been murdered by Islamists and then lectured that they are to blame for what has befallen them. We have been instructed in the need for special sensitivity to the unceasing demands of Islamic culture and falsely accused of intolerance by the people who wrote the book on intolerance”

“BS a small minority my ASS!!! A majority polled showed they would blow their selfs up in the name Islam!!

“RE YOU AWAKE YET? AMERICANS? As i stated before . . . The Koran demands that Muslim make any country they live in adapt to them and participate in Sharia Law. The last thing they plan to do is assimilate.
I present to you ~ The “MODERATE ISLAMICS” outside the place the woman was beheaded in Oklahoma. Shouting PRAISES to to their TWISTED goat fu*ker god. Now Happening in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria and NOW IN AMERICA ~ Oklahoma. Coming to a city or town near you.”

“Islam is the religion of hate torture and murder. There I said it.”

“Your right Colette. No other religion in modern day is so destructive to humanity. Islam is like ebola of humanity. And the people that are infected don’t know the difference!”

“Trust not a one of these Muslims!!!! They will stab you on the back or cut your head off every time!!!!”

“All Muslims must go.Don’t get sucked in by the nice ones.Remember the crusades and how they came to be.We are the infidels.Read satanic versus by Salmon Rushdi”

You sir…are a blistering moron! But then I suspect this isn’t the first time you have been told that! The only good muslim is a dead muslim and the best muslims are the good-n-dead muslims. A happy “allahu ahkbar” to you, sir!

It’s time to defend ourselves cause the police are not obligated to protect us they show up after to make out the reports we have to defend ourselves as you can see with that poor woman that was killed tg for the owner who had his gun today there could have been more i will tell you I am locked & loaded. I will never give up my guns!!!!”

“darlene you are right and so are several others with comments on here. they are not going to adapt to our country and never planed on it when they came here; there aim is to get rid of us whatever it takes. it is imperative that all muslims be deported from this country and i dont care if they have a green card, passport visa or have gotten citizenship. they cant live here. we will never have the same belief they do and they know it, they just want our money and plan on taking over our entire country. i for one will go down killing as many of them as i can before i will just lie down and let them kill me.”

(I’ll skip the “raghead” comments.) When I pointed out to the last commenter that her rant could have been cribbed straight from Hitler, this was her response:

“i dont know what he said and neither do you–we were not there. i live in the present and try to prepare for the future for my children and i see what is happening and ill do everything i can to stop it.”

That…that is beyond a facepalm, that is just…how is this person even smart enough to breathe?

This was my comment:

“The ignorance and violent racism in these comments are astounding. I am literally reading stuff that could have easily been cribbed from Hitler. Islam is no more founded on “hatred and torture and murder” then Judaism or Christianity. Go actually read the Old Testament (which is the Torah in Judaism) sometime. The “god-sanctioned” genocide, murder, rape, women brutally put down, and then come back and tell me how the Qur’an is “different.”

Any zealot can twist the words of a holy book to rationalize murder. Any zealot could twist the words of a candy bar wrapper to rationalize murder.

The Middle East is a cauldron of political enmities cased in religious rhetoric. Just like the conflict in Ireland was framed in religious terms (Catholic vs. Protestant) , only the root cause was that of throwing off a foreign occupation.

Adendum: Note how the solutions in Ireland were political, not mass conversions? That’s because religion wasn’t the real problem.

And here is the joke all you ignorant twerps: The largest population of Muslims in the world? Is in Indonesia. Funny how you don’t hear a lot about Indonesia wanting to kill all non-Muslims. Maybe because we have such a great business relationship with Indonesia (and we do). Or maybe because its political history is entirely different than that of the countries of the Middle East and so they do not have the same resentment against Western meddling, sometimes brutally violent Western meddling. (Seriously, read about the fall of the Ottoman Empire and how the Western powers carved up the Middle East for themselves and have never left it alone since.)

I am not saying that ISIS is right. They are pack of rabid dogs that need to be put down. (Though that is an insult to dogs.) But blaming all 1.6 billion Muslims across the planet for ISIS is just ignorance, childish hysteria and bigotry. The kind of bigotry the United States of America was specifically founded to avoid. So all of you that want to kill all the Muslims need to get the f- out of the U.S. because that is not what this country was founded on. (And before you try to go down *that* road- Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11.)”

The Statue of Liberty called. She wants her country back.

And the fact is, the greater muslim community has been speaking out against acts of terrorism and brutality by “Muslim” extremists since at least 9/11. (Here’s more.) The problem is, the western media has been studiously ignoring them.

I remember reading in an article in Newsweek a tiny, single sentence mention of a 2002 meeting called by the King of Jordan of religious leaders from all over the Muslim world who came together and, in essence, excommunicated the imams of al Qaeda, basically taking away any religious validly al Qaeda had within Islam.

Did anyone else hear anything about that? Why not? That was huge!

This rampant racist hatred is one of the most frightening aspects of the right-wing to me. You can’t Godwin these people because they are going there all by themselves.

My Dad was an amateur astronomer and in his later years, he took part in number of astronomy message boards. Astronomy is big in Islam since much of their religious calendar is based on astronomical cycles, like the moon. (I remember him commenting that many were especially keen for the first sighting of the new moon to end Ramadan. :D) And he conversed with them so easily, many did not realize he was an old white guy in Arizona. And when they did one of them asked them why, while the rest of the U.S. was so paranoid of Muslims, Dad was so comfortable interacting with them.

And I can’t remember his exact words, but he said, “Well, I figure if there is something fundamentally wrong with a religion, time will wash it away anyway. If Islam is still here, it must be doing something right.”

He did read the Qur’an too. Thought it was interesting. Liked the Muslim idea of heaven which is NOT the 72 virgin’s B.S..

It was a gift of his. You could set him down anywhere in the world, and he would fit in. One of the classic “Dad stories” was that he was in Marseilles on leave, translating drink orders for the French Foreign Legionareres one of which spoke Spanish. You could set him down in the mountains of Afghanistan and find him a couple days later sharing dinner with some tribal family. He was just an open, easy-going guy and people liked him. And he got so much from life through that gift of being open to experiences, new people, new cultures.

We need to take back our country, before it becomes something truly abhorrent. Every group that has come to our shores have brought value. We need to recognize that this nation has NEVER been only for White Christians of European decent and we drastically limit our nation, our economic power and our culture by pretending that it is.

I look at my father, born of a family that arrived here in 1635 and worked the land (lumberjacks), who had tremendous integrity, who was the first in his family to go to college, who was a Navy Pilot, who was rabidly passionate about science and the space program, who loved road trips, who researched and wrote American Civil War history, who was plain-spoken, and who loved exploring the world. And he is where I get my image of an ideal American from: Intelligent, hard-working, honorable, curious and eager to learn, yet inherently down-to-earth. I am fine with immigrants of all stripes and creeds. Every immigrant group that has come to our shores has brought material and cultural value. As I said before, the instant a culture tries to freeze itself in time is the instant that culture begins to die.


3 thoughts on “Islam and the U.S.

  1. Very well put, those comments are vile, straight out of The Eternal Jew. Nothing seems to change, the fools will still go on believing anything, as long as it means they are relieved of any sort of accountability.

    • As Sinclair Lewis (it may have been him anyway) said, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.” That is exactly what is happening. 9/11 was our Reichstag Fire.

      But I like to think that at least Half of America is smarter and more compassionate than that.

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