Fake Christians Go At It Again

Everyone has seen the recent news that broke that Josh Duggar, one of the famous Duggars of the scary “Quiverfull” Evangelical Christian movement/cult and stars of the 19 and Counting reality TV show on The Learning Channel, had molested his sisters when he was 14 and the youngest was five.

The entire sordid story, including the police report, can be found here in In Touch magazine. With the police report you have to scan though some pages of personal details of everyone involved in the case until you get to the accounts by the victims and witnesses. Another interesting factoid mentioned in the article, the police officer and friend of the family that came to the Duggars house and gave Josh a “stern talking to” (rather than arresting him) was later himself arrested, convicted and is serving 50 odd-years for kiddie porn.

Things that make you go “Hrrmmm.”

Now that fact that the Duggars allowed this to happen to their girls is appalling. And I note no one is talking about if they got the treatment/counseling they needed. (Though sadly, when they belong to a movement that treats women as brood sows subservient to their fathers, brothers and husbands, is it really that surprising?) That had the nerve to very publicly and hypocritically say and display their stand for “Christian Family Values” to their profit is more appalling.

Despite Patriarch Jim Bob himself saying that rape and incest should be punishable by death as part of his political platform.

But what has been completely disgusting is the loud and large reaction from the right-wing conservative Evangelical Christian community who has demanded that the reality TV shows stars be “left alone.” “God has forgiven his sins, it is not for you to judge,” “He only 14, a child himself, he didn’t know any better,” “We’ve all made mistakes,” “It sounds like they were just ‘playing doctor’,” etc. etc. etc., often each weirder and more desperate than the next. They have excused, rationalized and gotten very angry with people who have shown disgust over Josh and the family’s behavior.

So I guess molesting little girls are “Conservative/Fundamentalist Christian Family Values.”

The capper of hypocrisy came yesterday in this blog post by Michael Seewald.

It is the same collection of rationalizations and “God has forgiven him” and “it is not up to us to judge” we’ve been reading and hearing over the last couple days, with this sickening addition:

“It is a mercy of God that he restrains the evil of mankind otherwise we would have destroyed ourselves long ago. Many times it is simply lack of opportunity or fear of consequences that keep us from falling into grievous sin even though our fallen hearts would love to indulge the flesh.”

I put a response in the comments on his blog, but is sincerely doubt he will allow it to be published. Just too embarrassing to have some bare facts laid out. So here is my response to him and all those defending the Duggars with their claims of “Christian Grace.”

As a non-Christian, I have never had the urge to sexually molest a five year old. Most Christians I have known would never have the urge to do so. Most human beings do not have the urge to do so.

Which makes me wonder what is wrong with your branch of Christianity that you think this is a normal human urge?

Most 14 year old boys are stealing their Dad’s Playboy magazines to look at *women.* They are not looking at small children sexually. That is highly abnormal behavior, no matter what NAAMBLA or you have to say about it.

Josh Duggar was was 14 when this started. He was old enough to know he should not be touching his five and seven your old sisters’ genitals in their sleep or otherwise. If he did not know this was wrong, then there is something *very* wrong in the Duggar Household.

If you think this is some sort of normal human urge only stopped by your God, then you have issues that need to be addressed by a professional psychiatrist, as Josh Duggar’s family should have done with him and his victims 12 years ago rather than sending him off to help a family friend build houses for a couple months and then get a “stern talking to” by a police officer who was later arrested for kiddie porn.

BTW – You say you have the right to judge homosexuals based on God’s writing in Leviticus (and let’s be honest, you do judge them), well guess what Christ himself had to say about hurting children:

Matthew 18:6 – But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Luke 17:2 – It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.

So Christ himself thought people who hurt children deserved to die.

So if you claim the Bible as your right to judge one group, others can claim the Bible, Christs’ own Word, to judge a hypocritical pedophile.


3 thoughts on “Fake Christians Go At It Again

  1. This is a tricky subject. While I whole heartedly agree that a fourteen year old knows the difference between right and wrong, I do still think he was a child when it happened. And if it had been him groomed at that age, most people would see him as a vulnerable minor at fourteen. At least I hope so, because that is a crazy, messed up, gullible time for an unprotected teen, of that I am uncomfortably aware.
    When I read this, the first question I had was, has this happened to him? Child abuse is a virulent infection that spreads through contact. Boundaries and value systems fucked about with before these kids even realise they exist.
    One boy molests his sibling, but it turns out he too was molested by his older sibling and another boy. The other boy had been sent to a care home, where, you guessed it, was molested. The molesters had also been molested, and the trail goes on. This isn’t just supposition, true blue, I have seen this happen. Just check out British care homes in the seventies and eighties, the evidence and convictions is depressingly overwhelming.
    My instinct would be to dig deeper, because the banged up, ‘position of authority’ Paedophile copper is a huge red flag to me.

    • Quite true, the abused often become abusers, often not even consciously.

      Given the patriarchy-controlling women’s sexuality aspect of the Quiverfull movement, the fact that the “friend of the family” was dealing in kiddie porn, and then the defense of fundamentalist Christians of this sect that “we would all be child molesters if not for God”, I have to agree with you. There are some very serious problems in that household. Either Josh was molested (and if he had, he may be hiding it as a means of protecting the movement from further criminal investigation and discredit), and/or he saw his sisters or other women in the sect abused by someone else/an authority figure which made him think that it was o.k. to do the same.

      The Quiverfull sect’s attitude toward women bears too great a resemblance to the religious polygamy cults that marry 12 year old girls to their uncles for me to think it is a healthy environment for young people in general.

  2. Reading all this leads me to believe that the fault is with the parenting. His mum and dad ought to have been seriously worried by the behaviour, but they don’t even seem to be embarrassed by it.
    ‘Dr’s and Nurse’s/You show me yours and I’ll show you mine’ childhood exploration is fairly normal, up to the age of about 8. This wee guy was 14, an adolescent, well into the age of knowing what was unacceptable, especially within the teachings of his own Church. Somewhere along the line he got the message that small female humans are less important than his sexual fantasies. Now other young people in that community can see the particular doctrine they follow as a ‘get out of jail free’ card, and behaved accordingly.
    The hypocrisy is sadly not astounding, not even surprising, there are after all two sets of rules, ones where they are forgiven everything, and ones where the rest of us just go to Hell.

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